and the need for.. MR GREGORY: .unless there's a spark like this the use of words -- coward sometimes the conversation won't happen at all MS QUICK: Yeah I think Rick Santelli would use the same argument for getting people to talk about what's happening in the mortgage argument It does -- by saying these words it does -- and using these terms it does make us talk about these things MS NORRIS: Can I say one thing though I think that what what you see here is perhaps a slightly different view of the need for dialogue  MR GREGORY: Mm-hmm MS NORRIS: And I hear two very different conversations And in some ways they're coming from two different camps from people of color and from Caucasian Americans  And when you talk about the need for or the move toward a more post-racial society you don't hear that so much from people of color  And it's almost like that that ship is heading toward an iceberg because from people of color what you're hearing more often is let's now have a more open dialogue about race MR GREGORY: Right MS NORRIS: Let's not -- you can't. MR GREGORY: Let's not shut the dialogue off because. MS NORRIS: .you can't go over it you can't go under it MR GREGORY: Right MS NORRIS: You got to go through it MS QUICK: Mm-hmm MS NORRIS: And going through it can be tough but you need to go through it in order to get to the other side MR GREGORY: And that's the point Al  is that there is an opening here but it's just the opening with an African-American president That may be a starting point but it doesn't mean that that shuts off the conversation and that everything is OK MR HUNT: Well that's right And I agree with -- I actually agree with everything Michele said and I still think it was a poor choice of words For instance I believe last March that Barack Obama help open a dialogue  He was forced into it because of the Reverend Wright controversy He helped open a dialogue  His words were chosen more carefully. MR GREGORY: Hm MR HUNT: .which I think made it for a more constructive if very limited dialogue on some points MR GREGORY: All right we're going to have to leave it there We'll be right back MR GREGORY: Watch a special broadcast of MSNBC 's "Morning Joe " on Tuesday morning live from the White House on the morning of the president's address to Congress  Among their guests senior adviser to President Obama  David Axelrod  and White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs  I'll join them as well That's "Morning Joe " live from the White House Tuesday morning And of course Tuesday night complete coverage of President Obama 's address on NBC and MSNBC  Also look for updates from me this week on the president's speech the budget battle and more It's all on our Web site at mtpmsnbccom That's all for today We'll be back next week If it's Sunday it's MEET THE PRESS  Until you address that, Mark. And then they sedated her again But Gabby Giffords is for anyone that knows her or has ever met her is the most open warm and sweet woman?
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